Warren opens the door and ushers him inside without much ado, Jacobi already gone for the evening and the smell of very good meat still permeating the air.
"I made some finger food. Figured you might have an appetite after... all that."
Lark is hungry, but Lark is always hungry. Eating together is a pack activity though so he's even more glad to have something to snack on with Warren around.
"He's not regretting it for any moral reasons. But he is regretting it." As a morally grey person, that seems like a win to Lark.
"No, you got him thinking. Honestly? Even when Iris is up I'm going to be keeping tabs on him." He trusts Iris. But he believes in a community approach, believes in a hierarchy, believes John Seed is going to need a whole hell of a lot of help.
"You think I haven't been?" he says with a raise of an eyebrow as he pours out a couple of italian sodas for the two of them: just a little bubble, just a little sweetness, something to cut the heavy flavors of the burgers.
"The party... weren't you wondering why the alcohol was under the table?"
But he takes a sip and shakes his head.
"I moved on from Carol pretty quickly. Mostly because I saw them together and got what I needed there. No point covering it. At least, not at my level of clearance."
"He said it was her idea. He was bored and angry and wanted an outlet but she pointed him in the direction he ran. And I believe it." Which is a problem.
"Do you remember when I told you every pack needs a girl?"
"I wouldn't have turned you if you hadn't had Jacobi. If you hadn't told me you were in love, in real, lasting love." He looks at Warren a moment. "Because part of how the girls keep the pack together is that we're just not capable of hurting her. So we risk our lives for her, we make stupid decisions to keep her happy.
"And rationally I don't think that's what's going on with Seed. He's not a wolf, I get that. But it's hitting some very old scars in me."
He's not sure if he's been as specific with Lark as he is inside his head, because the fact of the matter is that he knows exactly how this is going to go. He knows he'll have a pack when they leave here. More importantly?
"Our girl is going to be the woman I'm bringing back with my deal. The bond we have with her is... that's already true. Not that she'd accept a stupid decision? But it's true for all of us. Each bond in the three... it's different. But equal."
Just because he's never been able to name the feeling he has about Maxwell beyond 'family' doesn't make that bond less. It just means that the English language hadn't provided a proper term for what they were. Maxwell would have to get on that herself when she got back.
He sighs out.
"Yes, I noticed. About Seed. What they have is... there are healthy aspects. And deeply unhealthy ones. It is my personal opinion? That this situation is a combination of her? And him. His own. personal feelings." A dip of his head. "And failings."
He has mild concerns about how that will turn out, but Jacobi isn't a wolf, and the woman Warren has in mind isn't either. It's something he means to hash out, to try to prepare Warren for, but this isn't the time.
"He'd be getting into some other kind of trouble if she wasn't here. But right now she has the reins and he wants her to have them. And while she is here giving him instant gratification, telling him what he thinks he wants to hear, listening to him, I don't know how effective you or I or Iris will be."
"Give it time," is his opinion on the whole thing, "which... I know he doesn't necessarily have. But. Forcing is only going to make the both of them hold on tighter. This?"
He shakes his head.
"It's going to go one of two directions. But we, and Iris, will have to see which direction it goes."
"I have some ideas. If it goes one way, I know what I'll do. If it goes the other, I have some options." Lark is never worried as long as he has strategies. Almost never.
"There's something, some very real potential, in him, Warren. If I can get him to stick to it, he could be something remarkable." A wry laugh. "If I was still an inmate I would have had him wrapped right around my finger, and I have to keep checking myself to be sure I'm not...trying to control too much. I care that he succeeds, I just need to let it be on his terms instead of mine."
“Most people here have amazing potential. That’s half of why they’re here, after all. But… you’re not wrong. He suits your kind of special. Just like Ulla suits mine.”
Which he mentions just to point out the fact that he too has a type. It’s not a criticism.
“He’s going to explode either way: his need to please… or his faith. One’s going to come out on top. I have my suspicions which one? For a few reasons. But I made it clear to him. That the paths do not overlap. No matter how much he wants them to.”
He looks over at Lark.
“This is where you need to wait. He has to fuck up, Lark. People like us? Need to fuck up.”
"I know. And I'm fine with him fucking up." A long sigh. "It was easier when I didn't give a damn about the rest of the ship. But I do now and I don't like anyone breaking things I'm invested in."
"I like the long game," he muses. He's already ticking through idea after idea after idea, and all of them he is comfortable running with...except then his worry for the Barge crowds in.
"I used to hate this place. I think I probably still do, but I became territorial over it after year five or six."
“It was useful. To start. Now? I think it’s one of the most important places in the multiverse.”
He means that. He has… a lot of feelings about this place.
“It gave me you. And Iris. It gave me Jacobi back. And it’ll give me Maxwell. Ulla. Zack. Thomas. John. Some others who’ve left. I look at… just the quality of people who come here. The scope. The range. And thats? In three years. Just my life.”
He glances at Lark.
“It’s terrible. The Admiral? Hit or miss. The whole venture? An incredible risk. But no one ever said miracles come cheap.”
no subject
no subject
See you tonight, brother.
no subject
no subject
"I made some finger food. Figured you might have an appetite after... all that."
no subject
"He's not regretting it for any moral reasons. But he is regretting it." As a morally grey person, that seems like a win to Lark.
no subject
"He's about three or four steps from seeing anyone who isn't very. specifically. important to him as anything but more or less annoying meat-puppets."
He'll lead the way to the kitchen, where there's a healthy sized platter or two of mushroom swiss sliders with black garlic aioli.
"I'm glad he's regretting it. The whole thing was a shitshow."
no subject
"Between him and Trevor, I'm not going to sleep."
no subject
He doesn't think he did. He's reasonably certain he came down just right. But Lark's got the most recent experience.
no subject
"Did he talk about Carol with you at all?"
no subject
"The party... weren't you wondering why the alcohol was under the table?"
But he takes a sip and shakes his head.
"I moved on from Carol pretty quickly. Mostly because I saw them together and got what I needed there. No point covering it. At least, not at my level of clearance."
He tips his chin towards Lark.
"Something you heard?"
no subject
"Do you remember when I told you every pack needs a girl?"
no subject
no subject
"And rationally I don't think that's what's going on with Seed. He's not a wolf, I get that. But it's hitting some very old scars in me."
no subject
"Our girl is going to be the woman I'm bringing back with my deal. The bond we have with her is... that's already true. Not that she'd accept a stupid decision? But it's true for all of us. Each bond in the three... it's different. But equal."
Just because he's never been able to name the feeling he has about Maxwell beyond 'family' doesn't make that bond less. It just means that the English language hadn't provided a proper term for what they were. Maxwell would have to get on that herself when she got back.
He sighs out.
"Yes, I noticed. About Seed. What they have is... there are healthy aspects. And deeply unhealthy ones. It is my personal opinion? That this situation is a combination of her? And him. His own. personal feelings." A dip of his head. "And failings."
no subject
"He'd be getting into some other kind of trouble if she wasn't here. But right now she has the reins and he wants her to have them. And while she is here giving him instant gratification, telling him what he thinks he wants to hear, listening to him, I don't know how effective you or I or Iris will be."
no subject
He shakes his head.
"It's going to go one of two directions. But we, and Iris, will have to see which direction it goes."
no subject
"There's something, some very real potential, in him, Warren. If I can get him to stick to it, he could be something remarkable." A wry laugh. "If I was still an inmate I would have had him wrapped right around my finger, and I have to keep checking myself to be sure I'm not...trying to control too much. I care that he succeeds, I just need to let it be on his terms instead of mine."
no subject
“Most people here have amazing potential. That’s half of why they’re here, after all. But… you’re not wrong. He suits your kind of special. Just like Ulla suits mine.”
Which he mentions just to point out the fact that he too has a type. It’s not a criticism.
“He’s going to explode either way: his need to please… or his faith. One’s going to come out on top. I have my suspicions which one? For a few reasons. But I made it clear to him. That the paths do not overlap. No matter how much he wants them to.”
He looks over at Lark.
“This is where you need to wait. He has to fuck up, Lark. People like us? Need to fuck up.”
no subject
no subject
“The problem is? He’s been at the bottom. So he has to get back there before he really gets malleable.”
no subject
no subject
“That’s why we work together. And. Nudge him. Towards the decision. Gently.”
He’s already played a gambit. He’ll have to see how Carol takes it.
no subject
"I used to hate this place. I think I probably still do, but I became territorial over it after year five or six."
no subject
He means that. He has… a lot of feelings about this place.
“It gave me you. And Iris. It gave me Jacobi back. And it’ll give me Maxwell. Ulla. Zack. Thomas. John. Some others who’ve left. I look at… just the quality of people who come here. The scope. The range. And thats? In three years. Just my life.”
He glances at Lark.
“It’s terrible. The Admiral? Hit or miss. The whole venture? An incredible risk. But no one ever said miracles come cheap.”
no subject
"Were you a jealous man as a human? Did you experience it often?"
(no subject)
(no subject)
(no subject)
(no subject)
(no subject)
(no subject)
(no subject)
(no subject)
(no subject)
(no subject)
(no subject)
(no subject)
(no subject)
(no subject)
(no subject)
(no subject)
(no subject)
(no subject)
(no subject)
(no subject)
(no subject)
(no subject)
(no subject)
(no subject)
(no subject)